Why do people hate it, when Vietnamese are grouped with East Asians?

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Why do people hate it, when Vietnamese are grouped with East Asians?

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We all know that Vietnam is the only country in Chinese culture located in Southeast Asia. So people always think Vietnamese belongs to the Northeast Asia group. East Asian cultural sphere - Wikipedia

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This is one of Vietnam's historical movies: Đường tới thành Thăng Long.

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I personally don’t hate it, why would someone hate it? Not agreeing is more understandable since Vietnam is not an East Asian country. People should understand that “sinosphere culture” is not synonym for “East Asia”. The core regions of sinosphere are China+Taiwan,Japan, Korea and Vietnam.

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In my opinion, some Vietnamese are pro- East Asia while others are pro- Southeast Asia. Sometimes the pro-East Asia crowd can be slightly annoying with their somewhat supremacist attitude. This annoys both East Asians and Southeast Asians as well as other foreigners.

Another reason is that foreigners are insensitive to Vietnamese cultural position. The fact is that Vietnamese culture is really heavily influenced by China, making it share similarities with other countries in East Asia. As a result Vietnamese do not feel much affinity for other Southeast Asians. This is wrongly misinterpreted by foreigners as a form of arrogance or wannabe attitude. The truth is that people lean more towards other cultures that are similar to them. To most Vietnamese, the Chinese influenced cultures feel much more familiar and close than those of other Southeast Asian countries.

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You are mistaking to Sinosphere and East Asian meaning!

East Asia means the countries located in the Eastern part of Asian continent. That’s include China, Korea, Japan and Taiwan. Sometimes, the Far East Russia and Mongolia are added to it.

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Here is East Asia. Vietnam is not part of East Asia. It is Southeast Asian nation.

Meanwhile, Sinosphere includes those countries which had been under Chinese influence for a long time. Vietnam is exactly that version.

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Sinosphere nations have close relations with China.

In that case, people you are mentioning, had mistaken East Asia and Sinosphere’s meaning. They thought East Asia means those countries within Chinese influence. That explains a bit.

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Vietnam is located in Southeast Asia,but the culture of the Vietnamese people is in the influence of East Asians’ culture.This is geographical and historical fact. It is foolish to hate it and incomprehensible.

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Okay, so I get attacked with this alot, so I can answer this.

“East Asia” is a geographical term, not a cultural term. Therefore, Vietnam isn't part of East Asia, but is part of Southeast Asia, another geographical term.

If you mention East Asian culture, people will include Mongolian culture because that country is part of East Asia. However, its culture isn't related (mostly) to majority of East Asia, but is closer to Central Asian culture.

The proper term has to be Sinosphere: cultures within Chinese influence. Because that's what it is: Japan, Korea, Vietnam, and China are Sinosphere countries.

Why people hate it when Vietnamese are referred as East Asian? Simply because Vietnamese aren't East Asians (unless you count Jing ethnic group in China), but Southeast Asians within Sinospheric cultural sphere.

Also, they hate it because they're racist. Tons of them think Vietnamese are beneath them because they have darker skins and are underdeveloped countries. And they think that's okay, which is quite problematic.

So if you're going to group Vietnamese culture with China, Japan, and Korea, use the correct term so they won't have anything to grab you with. Use Sinosphere.

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It's only a label that has no negative meaning such as fascist or terrorist. Why should people hate a meaningless label. Ask yourself if you believe your own proposition.

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China, Japan, and Korea kind of know each other well through trading, war, music, movie, ect.

Vietnam is almost a stranger to them. Nobody likes it when you force a stranger to a club, neither the club members nor the stranger.

Granted, Vietnam is culturally closer to China than to Southeast Asian countries but Sinosphere is the term for it and that’s all.

I’m quite surprised to see this question because I don’t think Vietnamese are grouped with East Asian that frequently, unless someone is talking about Chinese culture, and we don’t really care enough to “hate it”.

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Because geographically, we’re not, we’re in South East Asia. Culturally, Vietnam was East Asian BEFORE colonial time. These days Vietnam are not culturally closer to East Asian countries any more than some other countries in the region like Singapore and Malaysia

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Who are the “people that hate it” when Vietnamese are grouped with East Asians? Who are the people that want to “group” Vietnamese with East Asians? The Vietnamese certainly don’t.

The Vietnamese are from Southeast Asia and consider themselves Southeast Asians. They are proud of their geographic and genetic ancestries.

As a Vietnamese, I never grouped myself with East Asians or had anyone else tried to group me with East Asians. We are Southeast Asians, proud, and we love ourselves!

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